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	<title>Comments on: 10.5 certain external drives not mounting after restart or sleep; 10.4 &#8230;after sleep</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: player</title>
		<link>http://www.corewerkz.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>player</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.briancometa.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-284</guid>
		<description>I have a similar problem at least since Tiger with an mp3 player (Trekstor iBeat organix something). It sometimes works well, at other times it shows up in System Profiler, but neither in Finder nor anywhere else (e.g. formatting software). 

With Tiger, this seemed to be caused by an iMate and its driver (OK, that *was* officially incompatible, but worked for a trackball), with Leopard I did not test systematically. 

Annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar problem at least since Tiger with an mp3 player (Trekstor iBeat organix something). It sometimes works well, at other times it shows up in System Profiler, but neither in Finder nor anywhere else (e.g. formatting software). </p>
<p>With Tiger, this seemed to be caused by an iMate and its driver (OK, that *was* officially incompatible, but worked for a trackball), with Leopard I did not test systematically. </p>
<p>Annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://www.corewerkz.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred,

Thanks for the info!  I'll be sure not to buy Cosmos HC-3502H's in the future.  Any problem with any other enclosures by Cosmos?  I've actually never heard that brand... which backs up another train of thought behind this problem - don't by the cheaper/cheapest (which is what I usually do).  This must be another cheap-o with the poorer quality chipset.

FYI... I recently bought the NewerTech Mini Stack V2, similar to the HC-3502H.  Although it worked fine for about 2-3 weeks, it suddenly died 2 days ago.  It was not cheap, and certainly not the cheapest, and still had a problem (although not the same one related to this thread).  Called NewerTech who told me to get an RMA # from the support section of the web site... yea, too bad that doesn't exist!!  

Frustrated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred,</p>
<p>Thanks for the info!  I&#8217;ll be sure not to buy Cosmos HC-3502H&#8217;s in the future.  Any problem with any other enclosures by Cosmos?  I&#8217;ve actually never heard that brand&#8230; which backs up another train of thought behind this problem - don&#8217;t by the cheaper/cheapest (which is what I usually do).  This must be another cheap-o with the poorer quality chipset.</p>
<p>FYI&#8230; I recently bought the NewerTech Mini Stack V2, similar to the HC-3502H.  Although it worked fine for about 2-3 weeks, it suddenly died 2 days ago.  It was not cheap, and certainly not the cheapest, and still had a problem (although not the same one related to this thread).  Called NewerTech who told me to get an RMA # from the support section of the web site&#8230; yea, too bad that doesn&#8217;t exist!!  </p>
<p>Frustrated!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.corewerkz.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.briancometa.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-38</guid>
		<description>I have a Cosmos HC-3502H ext drive case/USB hub that can be seen here 
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HC-3502H&#38;cat=CAS
with a 250G WD drive I installed. It exhibits the same problem when coming out of sleep mode - but not every time the Mac wakes up, maybe once a day or so...sometimes more, sometimes less.

I tried unchecking the "put hardrive(s) to sleep" option...didn't make any difference. Only thing that brings the drive back is a power cycle of the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Cosmos HC-3502H ext drive case/USB hub that can be seen here<br />
<a href="http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HC-3502H&amp;cat=CAS" rel="nofollow">http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HC-3502H&amp;cat=CAS</a><br />
with a 250G WD drive I installed. It exhibits the same problem when coming out of sleep mode - but not every time the Mac wakes up, maybe once a day or so&#8230;sometimes more, sometimes less.</p>
<p>I tried unchecking the &#8220;put hardrive(s) to sleep&#8221; option&#8230;didn&#8217;t make any difference. Only thing that brings the drive back is a power cycle of the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
		<link>http://www.corewerkz.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 07:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct. There are 2x500gb drives in the enclosure in a RAID-0 (stripe) configuration. I keep everything on that drive backed up on DVD, so it works fine for me. The thing I like about it the most are the fast transfers. I average ~65MB/sec with this drive which is great! Compare that to ~20MB/sec on USB 2.0. 

There really is no comparison...

The Mediasonic enclosure lets you choose either RAID-0 (stripe) or RAID-1 (mirror). Given the cheap price (and falling daily) of HDDs these days, there's no excuse not to go with a RAID-1 configuration for extra security for your external drives, but in some situations, RAID-0 is fine as well.

Remember the golden rule, backup, backup, backup!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct. There are 2&#215;500gb drives in the enclosure in a RAID-0 (stripe) configuration. I keep everything on that drive backed up on DVD, so it works fine for me. The thing I like about it the most are the fast transfers. I average ~65MB/sec with this drive which is great! Compare that to ~20MB/sec on USB 2.0. </p>
<p>There really is no comparison&#8230;</p>
<p>The Mediasonic enclosure lets you choose either RAID-0 (stripe) or RAID-1 (mirror). Given the cheap price (and falling daily) of HDDs these days, there&#8217;s no excuse not to go with a RAID-1 configuration for extra security for your external drives, but in some situations, RAID-0 is fine as well.</p>
<p>Remember the golden rule, backup, backup, backup!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.corewerkz.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 04:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.briancometa.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-26</guid>
		<description>Hi Cory,

Thanks for the info!  Good to know I'm not the only one.  I think you're definitely correct about buy cheaper enclosures.  

If you don't want to give up yet, you could look in Console to see if it's giving you any strange messages when the drive is plugged in.  That may help determine what's needed to get it back up.

One word of caution about those big Lacie drives.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm quite sure they have 2 individual drives inside (at least they used to).  

They are using a proprietary hardware RAID to make both drives look like 1.  This means, when 1 drive dies or goes bad, the other drive goes down also and you loose everything.  And because it's a hardware RAID, with half the data on one drive, and half on the other, it's almost impossible to do data recovery (MAYBE Drive Savers could).

In summary, having an external drive with 2 drives inside doubles the chance of the external drive dying when compared to an external drive with 1 drive inside.  And it's harder to recover the data if/when it does die.  You may be fine, but i'd be sure to back it up daily.

I'm going to google the Mediasonic HUR1-SU2FWB now, thanks for the tip!

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cory,</p>
<p>Thanks for the info!  Good to know I&#8217;m not the only one.  I think you&#8217;re definitely correct about buy cheaper enclosures.  </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t want to give up yet, you could look in Console to see if it&#8217;s giving you any strange messages when the drive is plugged in.  That may help determine what&#8217;s needed to get it back up.</p>
<p>One word of caution about those big Lacie drives.  Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but I&#8217;m quite sure they have 2 individual drives inside (at least they used to).  </p>
<p>They are using a proprietary hardware RAID to make both drives look like 1.  This means, when 1 drive dies or goes bad, the other drive goes down also and you loose everything.  And because it&#8217;s a hardware RAID, with half the data on one drive, and half on the other, it&#8217;s almost impossible to do data recovery (MAYBE Drive Savers could).</p>
<p>In summary, having an external drive with 2 drives inside doubles the chance of the external drive dying when compared to an external drive with 1 drive inside.  And it&#8217;s harder to recover the data if/when it does die.  You may be fine, but i&#8217;d be sure to back it up daily.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to google the Mediasonic HUR1-SU2FWB now, thanks for the tip!</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
		<link>http://www.corewerkz.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.briancometa.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-22</guid>
		<description>I have the same enclosure (Acomdata B 112 Rev1.5) and I've had the same issue with it since I've owned it. I just tried messing with it again today, and I can't get it to show up at all anymore, even after unplugging it and leaving it off for a while. 

I used to have to turn it off then back on, and it would 'wake up'. 

It's been plugged in to my late-2007 24" iMac for the last 6 months or so, but in stealth mode :) 

Since it's a pain to have to keep turning it on and off I haven't been using it at all.

I think now that it's unplugged I will just retire this enclosure and chalk it up as a lesson learned and stay away from the cheap enclosures. USB is a terrible interface for HDDs anyways. I'm going to grab another FW800 case and call it a day. For me, it's just not worth the hassle and I don't think a solution is to be found anywhere. :(

My 1TB LaCie BigDisk Extreme+ (via FW800) has been wonderful, but it's just about full with less than 30gb remaining. Highly recommended. 

I've been looking around for a new enclosure for some of my existing drives and I think I've found one that looks promising:

Mediasonic HUR1-SU2FWB on which I've read a positive review and they can be had for a reasonable price on eBay.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same enclosure (Acomdata B 112 Rev1.5) and I&#8217;ve had the same issue with it since I&#8217;ve owned it. I just tried messing with it again today, and I can&#8217;t get it to show up at all anymore, even after unplugging it and leaving it off for a while. </p>
<p>I used to have to turn it off then back on, and it would &#8216;wake up&#8217;. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been plugged in to my late-2007 24&#8243; iMac for the last 6 months or so, but in stealth mode :) </p>
<p>Since it&#8217;s a pain to have to keep turning it on and off I haven&#8217;t been using it at all.</p>
<p>I think now that it&#8217;s unplugged I will just retire this enclosure and chalk it up as a lesson learned and stay away from the cheap enclosures. USB is a terrible interface for HDDs anyways. I&#8217;m going to grab another FW800 case and call it a day. For me, it&#8217;s just not worth the hassle and I don&#8217;t think a solution is to be found anywhere. :(</p>
<p>My 1TB LaCie BigDisk Extreme+ (via FW800) has been wonderful, but it&#8217;s just about full with less than 30gb remaining. Highly recommended. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been looking around for a new enclosure for some of my existing drives and I think I&#8217;ve found one that looks promising:</p>
<p>Mediasonic HUR1-SU2FWB on which I&#8217;ve read a positive review and they can be had for a reasonable price on eBay.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.corewerkz.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the comment dave!
 
do you happen to know the brand/model of the enclosures that couldn't sleep properly?  

do you know if they had the same problem with restarts?  

was this in 10.5 or 10.4?

thanks!
brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the comment dave!</p>
<p>do you happen to know the brand/model of the enclosures that couldn&#8217;t sleep properly?  </p>
<p>do you know if they had the same problem with restarts?  </p>
<p>was this in 10.5 or 10.4?</p>
<p>thanks!<br />
brian</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.corewerkz.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same problem with my previous two put-together external hard drives. It turns out that a lot of hard drive cases are not 'smart' enough for sleep mode on the computer. With my Lacie drives now, I can easily put my (Leopard 10.5.2) to sleep, and when I bring it back to the land of the awake, the drives are still happily working.

Nice website by the way, just found it by 'accident' (you wrote the name in a TUAW comment, I googled).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same problem with my previous two put-together external hard drives. It turns out that a lot of hard drive cases are not &#8217;smart&#8217; enough for sleep mode on the computer. With my Lacie drives now, I can easily put my (Leopard 10.5.2) to sleep, and when I bring it back to the land of the awake, the drives are still happily working.</p>
<p>Nice website by the way, just found it by &#8216;accident&#8217; (you wrote the name in a TUAW comment, I googled).</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.corewerkz.com/2008/02/21/65/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE: Just e-mailed Acomdata tech support with all the details of this problem, awaiting response...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE: Just e-mailed Acomdata tech support with all the details of this problem, awaiting response&#8230;</p>
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